Session Start: Tue Oct 01 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[10:11]<PCdoc> <guest_49> Hi - anyone know a good method to recover data from a 3.5" floppy disk?
[10:11]<PCdoc> <PCdoc> you need a floppy drive for it
[10:11]<PCdoc> <PCdoc> 3.5" compatible floppy drive
[10:11]<PCdoc> <guest_49> yeah, i have one
[10:11]<PCdoc> <guest_49> hence i know the data needs recovering!
[10:11]<PCdoc> <db100547> guest_49: maybe use a linux livecd.
[10:11]<PCdoc> linuxlive cd ?? !!
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[10:26]<Magiobiwan> I have a Floppy drive in my TechStation
[10:26]<Magiobiwan> Put it in last week
[10:26]<Magiobiwan> Why? I had to get a program off a Floppy for a teacher
[10:26]<Magiobiwan> Their old computer died, and their new one didn't have a Floppy
[10:27]<Magiobiwan> The program didn't run on Windows 7
[10:27]<Magiobiwan> 32-bit OR 64-bit
[11:57]<@BC_Programming> was it ReMARK?
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[12:56]<@Calum> oops
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> It's OK
[12:56]<@Calum> that was smooth
[12:57]<@Calum> here to ask for help actually, I am a complete noob with this...I now have a dedicated server, and I've connected to it via putty, but I don't know what to do next...
[12:57]<@BC_Programming> what were you doing with it
[12:57]<@Calum> It has Ubuntu on it, ideally I would like to be able to remote desktop or something like that, so I have a GUI
[12:58]<@Calum> this is pretty much my first time using Linux so I have literally no idea where to start with, well, anything
[12:59]<@BC_Programming> you don't admin Linux with a GUI, or you'll have a bad time
[12:59]<@Calum> can I install software from SSH then? Because realistically that's all I want to do with it right now
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> sudo apt-get
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> what did you want to install is the question
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> that's kinda what I meant when I asked what you were doing with it
[13:02]<@Calum> ah, sorry. Firstly I want to install DIMES, from here - http://www.netdimes.org/new/?q=node/10
[13:04]<@BC_Programming> you'd need to use wget to download files, I guess you'd need http://www.netdimes.org/PublicData/downloads/Dimes_Agent_055_Linux.tar.gz
[13:04]<@BC_Programming> though honestly I have no idea what is inside the tar will take a look
[13:06]<@Calum> OK, I ran wget http://www.netdimes.org/PublicData/downloads/Dimes_Agent_055_Linux.tar.gz and it downloaded it, so I learnt how to download files, yay
[13:06]<@BC_Programming> the fun part is tar
[13:07]<@BC_Programming> I have no idea how to extract files with it, I think it's tar -xf filename but I don't actually have a Linux system to check
[13:07]<@Calum> a quick Google said
[13:07]<@Calum> $ tar zxf file.tar.gz $ tar zxf file.tgz $ tar jxf file.tar.bz2 $ tar jxf file.tbz2
[13:07]<@Calum> but how do I know where the file is actually saved to?
[13:08]<@Calum> I feel so out of my depth here, man
[13:08]<@BC_Programming> I think it extracts the files in the current directory
[13:08]<@BC_Programming> I'd probably use tar -zxcf filename
[13:09]<@Calum> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[13:10]<@Calum> tar -zxf seemed to work
[13:11]<@BC_Programming> ok it ought to have a few .sh files
[13:11]<@BC_Programming> linuxInstall.sh looks like the one you want to start with
[13:12]<@Calum> running dir just gives me the filename, ending .tar.gz
[13:12]<@BC_Programming> ls *.sh
[13:13]<@Calum> no such file or directory
[13:13]<@Calum> ah
[13:13]<@BC_Programming> wtf
[13:13]<@Calum> ls * worked
[13:13]<@Calum> gave me a list of files including the install.sh
[13:13]<@BC_Programming> linuxInstall.sh?
[13:13]<@Calum> indeed
[13:14]<@BC_Programming> ok you ought to run that, ./linuxInstall.sh should do it
[13:14]<@Calum> hm, gives me no such file or directory
[13:14]<@BC_Programming> case sensitive btw
[13:15]<@Calum> Yeah, I realised after I typed it all lowercase, but typed it case sensitive and gives me the same message
[13:15]<@BC_Programming> ls * lists subdirectories I think fwiw
[13:16]<@BC_Programming> what about just ls without any arguments
[13:16]<@Calum> ls gives me DIMES Dimes_Agent_055_Linux.tar.gz
[13:17]<@Calum> ah
[13:17]<@Calum> I figured that part out
[13:17]<@Calum> DIMES is a directory, had to cd into that
[13:17]<@Calum> then run linuxInstall.sh
[13:18]<@BC_Programming> no
[13:18]<@BC_Programming> you need to type ./linuxInstall.sh
[13:18]<@BC_Programming> otherwise it says it wasn't found because the shell is dumb
[13:19]<@Calum> ok, I did that, and I got this...
[13:19]<@Calum> ./linuxInstall.sh: line 1: cd: /usr/local/DIMES/scripts_linux: No such file or directory ./linuxInstall.sh: line 2: make: command not found Thank you for installing the DIMES Agent! To run the DIMES Agent in InterActive mode, run usr/local/DIMES/linuxAgent.sh as root. To run the DIMES Agent as a service, run usr/local/DIMES/linuxService.sh as root
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> make not found
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> oh god
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> you're running Ubuntu
[13:19]<@Calum> have I picked something really awkward?
[13:19]<@Calum> I picked Ubuntu on the list because I thought it was meant to be easy hah
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[13:20]<@BC_Programming> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:21]<@BC_Programming> Ubuntu makes it a PITA because they decided that unlike every single other distribution they shouldn't include the tools to compile things from source, which is a shame because everything usually tries to install that way
[13:21]<@Calum> ah I see
[13:21]<@Calum> I failed at first, then I realised I needed to not be in the DIMES dir
[13:21]<@Calum> it's running now
[13:22]<@Calum> ok, looks like it's done...shall I go back into the DIMES dir and run the .sh again?
[13:22]<@BC_Programming> yeah give that another go
[13:23]<@Calum> ok, this time it starts with....
[13:23]<@Calum> ./linuxInstall.sh: line 1: cd: /usr/local/DIMES/scripts_linux: No such file or directory make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> and now you see why I stopped using Linux
[13:23]<@Calum> indeed I can
[13:23]<@Calum> I thought I should probably learn but I also thought it would be easier than this
[13:25]<@BC_Programming> actually does 'java' output anything?
[13:25]<@Calum> ah, I need to install Java for it don't I...I got
[13:25]<@Calum> The program 'java' can be found in the following packages: * default-jre * gcj-4.6-jre-headless * gcj-4.7-jre-headless * openjdk-7-jre-headless * openjdk-6-jre-headless Try: apt-get install <selected package>
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> I'd go for openjdk-7-jre-headless
[13:26]<@Calum> ah, I just decided to go for default-fre heh, but I'll do that instead
[13:27]<@Calum> default-jre, even
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> doesn't matter probably
[13:27]<@Calum> ok
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> I thought of something else to try
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> wget http://www.netdimes.org/PublicData/downloads/dimes-agent_0.5.5-1_i386.deb
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> sudo dpkg -i dimes-agent_0.5.5-1_i386.deb
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> that ought to install the package which hopefully is a bit smarter at what to do than the script
[13:28]<@Calum> ok, I'll give that a try once Java is finished doing its thing
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[13:28]<@BC_Programming> oh you might need ./ before the .deb file I can never remember when that is needed
[13:30]<@Calum> ok, I tried it with and without ./ and got the same stuff
[13:30]<@Calum> Unpacking replacement dimes-agent ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of dimes-agent: dimes-agent depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6). dpkg: error processing dimes-agent (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: dimes-agent
[13:30]<@BC_Programming> maybe you can apt-get install libc6
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> then give it another go
[13:32]<@Calum> ah hah
[13:32]<@Calum> I did that, then it said I should try running apt-get -f install
[13:32]<@Calum> did that, then ran the deb, and it seems to have worked
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> cool
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> I have no idea what the software does or how to start it lol
[13:33]<@Calum> just trying to figure out how to actually run the DIMES agent now, because it's hopefully installed heh
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> I think there is a start service script in there also
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> oh hmm
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> that would be the 'not-installed' version though maybe
[13:34]<+camerongray> Hey Calum
[13:34]<@Calum> hey camerongray
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> good maybe camerongray can be more help
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> you have been conscripted!
[13:34]<@Calum> thanks for getting me this far BC, would've taken me forever
[13:35]<+camerongray> Calum: Have you tried Webmin?
[13:35]<@Calum> I don't know what Webmin is
[13:35]<@Calum> hah
[13:35]<+camerongray> Gives you a browser based UI to control things on the server
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> that would be useful
[13:36]<@Calum> that does sound useful
[13:36]<+camerongray> This should do it: http://www.webmin.com/deb.html
[13:38]<+camerongray> Looks like we have a badass over at OVH "We're taking this opportunity to review our internal tools, in order to switch them onto Big Data and enrich them with the new algorithms that will help us make the right decisions."
[13:38]<@Calum> installing it now, at least I think so
[13:38]<+camerongray> Big Data...
[13:39]<@Calum> what does that sentence even mean?
[13:39]<+camerongray> When big data is mentioned... Nothing
[13:39]<+camerongray> It's like calling something "cloud"
[13:40]<@Calum> OK, webmin is installed
[13:40]<+camerongray> Nice!
[13:41]<@Calum> it's updating some packages
[13:41]<+camerongray> That should make things easier, espcially firewall!
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[13:41]<+camerongray> Should probably get yourself a domain too :P
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[13:41]<@Calum> not too bothered about getting a domain, I'll just bookmark the hostname
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> now I'm working on the company flagship product and I have a 'bad' feeling that since the main programmer that works on it is taking a vacation soon they are trying to shoehorn me to fill that spot lol
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[13:41]<@Calum> heh
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[13:41]<@Calum> oh and hey Mulreay
[13:42]<@Mulreay> hey Calum and peeps
[13:42]<@Calum> ok, now webmin is installed...what do I do next to get this working?
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> haha somebody is on another channel claiming to be a "famous youtuber"
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> so I said "oh good, you're back, did you consider my proposal?"
[13:45]<@BC_Programming> aww he simply left the channel
[13:50]<@Calum> Verifying JAVA_HOME... JAVA_HOME Enviroment variable is not defined. Please define a location for Java 1.6 or higher
[13:50]<@Calum> how do I define a location?
[13:50]<Immental1200> Isn't webmin windows?
[13:50]<Immental1200> Or am I confusing it
[13:51]<@Calum> webmin seems to be working fine, I can browse files, run commands, etc
[13:51]<Immental1200> I'm thinking of plesk... Ignore me.
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> well considering it comes in a .deb I'm gonna say the latter Immental1200
[13:51]<@Calum> hehe
[13:52]<@BC_Programming> haha oh wow... so almost 50 bucks in bank fees
[13:53]<@BC_Programming> I guess it's a motivator to not spend money at least... I can live with less Pizza I think
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> now I get to read THEOS BASIC code and figure out what ISAM databases it needs converted to PostGres for the Windows Equivalent that I am tasked to create
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> joy
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> behold! http://pastebin.com/Z11jhL1G
[14:01]<+camerongray> Immental1200: Plesk is also cross platform :P
[14:01]<@BC_Programming> I was up until 5AM last night playing Terraria
[14:05]<+camerongray> Calum: What are you going to use the server for? :P
[14:05]<@Calum> right now, I intend to use it as a tool to frustrate myself endlessly until I jump off a bridge
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> That was the original design goal of *nix
[14:05]<@Calum> it's achieved it very well
[14:06]<@BC_Programming> it was intended to decrease the cost of running the samaritans
[14:06]<@Calum> hah
[14:06]<+camerongray> lol!
[14:06]<@Calum> in all seriousness, while I have it I'm going to run the DC projects I run, on it
[14:06]<@Calum> it's not exactly powerful but I may as well
[14:06]<@Calum> might also use it for some storage as it does have a 500GB drive and 100/100 net
[14:06]<+camerongray> DC projects?
[14:07]<@Calum> distributed computing
[14:07]<+camerongray> Ahh cool
[14:07]<@Calum> like folding@home
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> that reminds me
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> I need to actually setup my laptop for something
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> I spend around 140 dollars on a 1TB laptop SSHD drive and now it's just sitting there not being used like usual
[14:07]<@Calum> heh
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> I might be able to use it more if I could actually connect to the work VPN with it :/
[14:08]<@Calum> getting DIMES set up was my first step as it's non intensive, but I am failing hard...I seem to need to set the JAVA HOME, but I've done it wrong apparently
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> JAVA_HOME <underscore?
[14:08]<@Calum> that too
[14:08]<@Calum> lol
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> also you might need to use sudo to set it in the root account or something
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> oh wait
[14:09]<@Calum> I read something and I did this - sudo pico /etc/environment - and then added this line - JAVA_HOME=/etc/java-7-openjdk
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> it looks like you would need to edit ~/.bash_profile
[14:10]<@Calum> because that's the only java dir I could see
[14:10]<@Calum> but I get....Using JAVA_HOME : /etc/java-7-openjdk Cannot find Java executable : /etc/java-7-openjdk/bin/java, script will exit
[14:10]<@Calum> have I done this totally wrong?
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> try "where java"
[14:10]<@Calum> no command "where" found
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> I can't remember if it's where but there is a command that shows where a file is that you can run but don't no where it is
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> whereis?
[14:11]<@Calum> ah that looks better
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> that should give you the folder you want to use
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> you'd want the one above the bin folder obviously
[14:13]<@Calum> ok, that seems to have worked perfectly
[14:13]<@BC_Programming> yay progress
[14:14]<@Calum> well, in as much as I have now run into another issue but that seems to be a problem with the software rather than me
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> You can usually blame the system at some stage anyway
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> I mean it's not like it's your fault that Linux requires arcane CLI commands
[14:16]<@Calum> heh
[14:16]<@Calum> http://www.netdimes.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6988
[14:16]<@Calum> another guy said he has the same issue as that first post, too
[14:16]<@Calum> I get the same thing, so I guess the software doesn't work after all...
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> lol
[14:17]<@Calum> ah well...least I've learnt something, thanks for the help :)
[14:17]<@Calum> tomorrow, I will try and get something else working on there...
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> hopefully uou have better luck
[14:18]<@Calum> it does make more sense now and at least I have a basic idea of how to download things, and run them, and other basic stuff
[14:18]<@Calum> need to head off for tonight, anyway, so thanks again :) catch you all later
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[14:19]<@BC_Programming> I don't know why he asked for help here, he should know we are all dumbheads
[14:19]<+camerongray> hehe
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> so 80 hours for this pay, and already 14.5 hours on the next one because of excess carry-over
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> and this WO has an estimate of 60-hours of effort which means it will probably take 500
[14:29]<+camerongray> Sweet!
[14:29]<+camerongray> I won big time yesterday! Because I work at random times I can't really take a holiday but I still accumulate them, so they just paid me all my accumulated holiday pay yesterday :D
[14:30]<+camerongray> So a nice extra £712 :D
[14:30]<@BC_Programming> we get our vac. pay each pay,
[14:30]<@BC_Programming> vac. I'm guessing would just be dealt with by accumulating enough carry over
[14:38]<@BC_Programming> something keeps making a lot of my applications swap to disk and it's annoying me
[15:07]<@Mulreay> lol http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2013/10/01/worrying-obituary-column-of-the-day/
[15:07]<Immental1200> Some idiot accidentally turned whitelisitng on for my public minecraft server that just started getting players yesterday
[15:07]<Immental1200> 40 people tried connecting today and they were all locked out -_-
[15:09]<+camerongray> Mulreay: hahaha
[15:10]<Immental1200> I don't get it Mulreay
[15:10]<@Mulreay> Not a lot I can do to help you with that.. if you don't get it from the title and the image then there is nothing to be done
[15:11]<Immental1200> Nevermind, brain just died for a moment...
[15:11]<Immental1200> I'd have been better to keep quiet will it woke up.
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[16:20]<+camerongray> hahaha! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-ft-artificial-christmas-tree-/221291162054?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Make_Up_Cosmetics_Lip_Gloss_PP&hash=item3385fb29c6
[16:20]<+camerongray> How do I eBay? :P
[16:32]<jamer> Assasins creed 2 on pc is omfg
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